tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post4127851728294048104..comments2023-12-30T13:27:56.265-05:00Comments on Billy Ockham: Use of Force Justified or Not?mousestalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-67859907088678393762007-12-09T19:43:00.000-05:002007-12-09T19:43:00.000-05:00I don't know Utah, but most states, if you don't s...I don't know Utah, but most states, if you don't sign the ticket, the cop has to arrest you. <BR/><BR/>What I fault the officer for is not explaining that. On the other hand, I don't see tasering him. Yes he was a jerk. But we don't have nearly enough room in jail to hold all the jerks.mousestalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-16165697099906961652007-12-09T18:48:00.000-05:002007-12-09T18:48:00.000-05:00Hey, he COULD have used his gun. I don't get smart...Hey, he COULD have used his gun. <BR/><BR/>I don't get smart with officers. If they want me to sign something, I'll sign it. We can settle it later in front of a judge with attorneys. It's far easier to have a traffic violation come off of one's record, as opposed to an arrest and 24 hours in jail (been there done that, and not for a traffic violation). It can be done, but it's time-consuming and very costly...far more so than a simple speeding ticket.<BR/><BR/>I used to work for motor vehicle traffic school, and if he had been here in Florida, the worst that would have happened if he'd signed the citation was either:<BR/><BR/>1: he goes to the courthouse and pays the fine and takes the points on his record, or...<BR/><BR/>2: he signs up for a session of traffic school, goes to it, presents his certificate of completion to the clerk of the court, and the points don't even show up on his motor vehicle report. <BR/><BR/>His mistake was in deciding to argue with a cop right there on the road. <BR/><BR/>But I'm sure you're going to tell me just how wrong I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-54284147273205851482007-12-09T15:40:00.000-05:002007-12-09T15:40:00.000-05:00Nope. I hate to see the Taser used in situations ...Nope. I hate to see the Taser used in situations like this. While it USUALLY has no lasting ill effects, it can be lethal on people with certain health issues.<BR/><BR/>Seems a simple case of a cop demanding unquestioning obedience from the public.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11252303618948155676noreply@blogger.com