tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post2434242257446407389..comments2023-12-30T13:27:56.265-05:00Comments on Billy Ockham: Abandonmentmousestalkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-1767147225532237772008-01-19T13:14:00.000-05:002008-01-19T13:14:00.000-05:00Isn't there also a Denver case against Armstrong's...Isn't there also a Denver case against Armstrong's church? <BR/><BR/>My husband says he's gotten free wiki software from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki. He hasn't installed it yet because we need a newer version of MySQL than we have. <BR/>IMO, showing both diocese-level and national suits shows the fullest picture of the amounts of money being spent/wasted. <BR/><BR/>-Cathy_LouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-26897357519453809882008-01-18T10:02:00.000-05:002008-01-18T10:02:00.000-05:00Well, I don't think there's been any national invo...Well, I don't think there's been any national involvement, but one other case I'm intimately familiar with is All Saints Waccamaw vs the Diocese of South Carolina.<BR/><BR/>It's a good idea. I like the wiki idea. I know there is software available for creating wikis and this will give me an incentive to look at it this weekend and see how possible a project like this could be.mousestalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-47794982154312143192008-01-18T09:31:00.000-05:002008-01-18T09:31:00.000-05:00Thanks for thinking about it. Plus you probably h...Thanks for thinking about it. Plus you probably have contacts I don't have who might be interested. I am good at thinking up work for others :-) <BR/><BR/>I feel like there were some other cases - Florida? I'll try to do a little research. It's almost a wiki type thing - asking for input from those who know. To be complete, any cases related to TEC division should be mentioned - e.g. Pittsburg church against Duncan? Any leaving churches that have filed? <BR/><BR/>-Cathy_LouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-47944026743085766002008-01-17T17:18:00.000-05:002008-01-17T17:18:00.000-05:00Allen,I think the presentment against Bishop Dunca...Allen,<BR/><BR/>I think the presentment against Bishop Duncan shocked me more than just about anything else Episcopal. Everyone expected the one against Bishop Schofield. I hoped they wouldn't but was not surprised when they did.<BR/><BR/>The Bishop Duncan affair just smells wrong. And for good or ill, I think it will come back to haunt Bishop Jefferts-Schori for a long time.mousestalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-80645702585531031112008-01-17T17:15:00.000-05:002008-01-17T17:15:00.000-05:00Hi Cathy Lou,I'm thinking about your idea. I'm try...Hi Cathy Lou,<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking about your idea. I'm trying to assess how much work it will really be and if it's likely anyone else would help.<BR/><BR/>I think it's a great idea, but I'm not sure if I have the time.<BR/><BR/>I know there are appeals going in New York and California. I think the suits in Connecticut have been disposed of. And there is a trial going on in Virginia. Is that accurate and are there any others?<BR/><BR/>Thank youmousestalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640977915382623244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-54674249268048647582008-01-17T12:16:00.000-05:002008-01-17T12:16:00.000-05:00You would think that Bishop Henderson, having once...You would think that Bishop Henderson, having once been a lawyer, might have had some second thoughts about "due process," etc. But this just shows 1) +Henderson is a true "Company Man" and 2)Due process is the last thing on the TEC leadership radar. <BR/>For all their blather about "compassion", "pastoral care", "inclusion",<EM>ad nauseum</EM>, you would think that the TEC leadership would be able to see the contradictory positions in which they place themselves. But since their blindness is self-imposed, all of this just shows how far they have fallen from grace. <BR/><BR/>It is a real pity that basically good people like Bishop Duncan and Bishop Iker need to suffer for this, but that is what happens whenever we allow the revisionists even <EM>one</EM> foothold.Allen Lewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853861649876959271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3934801.post-56781895146284226402008-01-17T08:17:00.000-05:002008-01-17T08:17:00.000-05:00Hi, it's Cathy_Lou from SF. This is a bit off top...Hi, it's Cathy_Lou from SF. This is a bit off topic, but I'm writing you since I think you've posted on 815 legal costs so maybe you'd be interested. <BR/><BR/>My idea - I think it would be very helpful to have a web page that lists all the litigation 815 and dioceses are currently engaged in, along with legal expense amounts in public domain. I'm not talking about great detail, but just a basic list or summary table showing the extent and sheer number of suits (listed by diocese). Maybe just "As of x date, Known court actions filed since x date." And if available and easy to get, show membership and ASA of churches impacted.<BR/><BR/>I think it would be a good thing to show "beloved Moderates" just how bad things have gotten and how much $ is being wasted. Maybe even a big total amount on the top of the page, compared to how much has been budgeted to MDGs (or 2 fund raising "thermometers next to each other for comparison) , as a good summary visual to stay in visitor's minds and show that all is NOT well. <BR/><BR/>Another audience could be those who might be convinced not to pledge if money goes toward legal costs. <BR/><BR/>I'm not in TEC, so don't have the contacts to gather that info. I enjoy your posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com